Manufacturers Championship - Recognition to the top manufacturers within the club ranks. We have 1, 2 3 places. Tops points earned by each manufacturer in all races. No trophy just recognition at the awards banquet.
If Formula 108 is just what you say and supposed to be a stepping stone to get 'MORE RIDERS' into Dash for Cash then why not keep all the race fees from both races in the Dash for cash pay out? That's win win the way I see it, the top 1-8 riders remain attracted to Dash for Cash and the bottom riders still have the same attraction, progression and they get a championship.
It's easy to say that when you're not the guy telling someone they got disqualified.
Racers are the whiniest bunch too. So it never goes that way.
I'd like to see a change to it as well to get more teams, closer to the pot.
But lets imagine a scenario or two and see how that would play out. Lets say this year it was a team like Eric, Me, Ryan and Ian who each do between 3-7 race races a day and win or finish second in at least twice a day for sure. There you've got 4 racers taking home 160-200 points for 2 races each. Lets say the lightweights make a team like Graham, Matt, Mark and Torin. They can have the same luck, except they only have 2-3 races available to really draw a good finish from. Whereas I would have 6 races to draw my best finishes from... if i was 35 i could do 7 a day... if Eric was 35 he could do 8 a day.
What i'm thinking is that it will still boil down to a huge advantage for whoever does more races in a day. But it might help leverage the playing field a bit, I'm all for it. Does anyone else have an idea on how to rearrange the Team Championship scoring?
Yeah, one thing that kept coming up while we were talking about this at home is, "what is the objective of the team championship". That will dictate how it should be scored. If the objective is to get guys doing more races, then leaving it as is will get us there.The whole idea behind this championship was to try and get more racers doing more races.
Yeah, one thing that kept coming up while we were talking about this at home is, "what is the objective of the team championship". That will dictate how it should be scored. If the objective is to get guys doing more races, then leaving it as is will get us there.
Maybe we could consider a classification for the team championship? Something like a Middleweight/Lightweight team championship and a Supersport/Superbike team championship? Of course that doesn't work for guys that run both lightweight bikes and superbikes...If the objective is to get more racers doing more races, the club should acknowledge that this effectively rules out the Middleweight and especially the Lightweight bikes from being competitive in the team championship.
It's a good suggestion. The club needs to decide what direction it wants to go with the team championship. I would look for executive guidance on this. Then we can draft the rules.Maybe we could consider a classification for the team championship? Something like a Middleweight/Lightweight team championship and a Supersport/Superbike team championship? Of course that doesn't work for guys that run both lightweight bikes and superbikes...
It's a good suggestion. The club needs to decide what direction it wants to go with the team championship. I would look for executive guidance on this. Then we can draft the rules.
Basically just to make the rookie of the year award officially based off of most points?May I suggest a pro rookie of the year series? This would be a cumulation of points scored by our newly minted expert racers. This is taken directly from csbk, and would allow the club to spotlight our new and up and coming talent. It may also allow those riders to feel more comfortable as they get promoted to the faster classes.
Agreed. The club is very well run. The Executive do an amazing job with this. Keep up the great work!Race fees are far and away the largest source of income for the club, it lives and dies by collecting race fees. We can increase income for the club by increasing fees (no thanks), or by giving the racers WE CURRENTLY HAVE a reason to want to pay more fees (there's a team championship on line). This was the reason for creating the team championship as it is and the reason for it's success within the club.
The club is very successful (race fees are cheapest around, the on track product is high quality, and the club operates in the black). It is also competitive (We have full grids, and a large number of champions given the number of classes). One of the reasons for these two points is because of the current Team Championship.
im not for or against this as i havent thought about it, but i agree....there should be a set of rules to help prevent stacking. as far as i can recall, every year has been heavily dominated by 2 teams down to the last weekendLimit teams to 1 exec/past president? Being that their fees are covered, it’s A little easier for a team stacked with 3 exec to do their 6 Races a day.
im not for or against this as i havent thought about it, but i agree....there should be a set of rules to help prevent stacking. as far as i can recall, every year has been heavily dominated by 2 teams down to the last weekend
some random examples that may or may not work:
no more than X of #1 plate holders per team from previous season
must have a mix of X:Y expert:intermediate ratio
winning team from previous season must replace X amount of riders in the team
Interesting suggestion on the team championship Allan. That would shake things up. I like the aspect of it bringing the club closer together. We would all make some new friends with this format. From a new club member's perspective (2019 was my 2nd year), the team championship didn't seem accessible to me. It felt like something the old friends at the club did and I had no chance to field a competitive team.I propose that the team championships consist of everyone that wants to participate, put your name into a hat and we draw teams. The fastest people that want to participate draw 3 names each. Say there is 20 people that want to participate take the 5 fastest from last year and they draw 3 names each. This would ultimately make it more fair and would likely lead to more participation from people that think they may not win, aslo maybe bring the club closer as a whole.
I also would like to propose that the expert Super Bike Race is earlier in the day so that we can get more people to race. Maybe we could switch it with open sportbike. I know I'd rather do a 12 lap race then an 8 lap race at the end of the day. Or have 2 sbk races, saturday race 1 and sunday race 2 and eliminate open sport bike. Either way Id like to see expert sbk grids improve. Another idea might be to grid intermediates and experts together and let them all go at once. I feel like most of the people in intermediate sbk are good enough to race with expert maybe put a time cap of 110 % or what ever so people are not getting lapped at a high rate of speed. If we did this then I think we should keep open sport bike.